[47681] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: IP renumbering timeframe
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David R Huberman)
Thu May 9 19:54:51 2002
Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 19:54:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: David R Huberman <daveid@panix.com>
To: David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>
Cc: "nanog@merit.edu" <nanog@merit.edu>
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Clarification:
ARIN plays, at most, an advisory role during appropriate assignment
*disputes*. That last word is very important :>
>
> DS writes:
> > Nonetheless, ARIN is in the business of requiring compliance with its
> > policies as a condition of IP address allocations.
>
> In the real world ARIN only looks at existing assignments to judge the
> worthiness of an additional address space request. It doesn't look at nor
> care about non-existent assignments.
>
> DS writes:
>
> > Third parties can make reasonable arguments that they have standing to
> > litigate these requirements on the grounds that the requirements were
> > intended to benefit the public in general and hence they are intended
> > beneficiaries.
>
> ARIN plays, at most, an advisory role to upstream/downstreams vis-a-vis
> appropriate assignments. It does not get involved with legal disputes nor
> does it ever directly instruct businesses how to conduct their affairs
>
> Sure: organizations have successfully gotten more appropriate assignments
> from upstreams by thrusting ARIN policies in front of an obstinate
> upstream's face. Good.
>
> But those policies in no way preclude an upstream from taking away
> downstream assignments - especially in the case of this thread, where the
> customer/upstream relationship was terminated.
>
> Can we please stop this non-argument now? I agree with what you've said:
> ARIN policies are good for those trying to obtain appropriate assignments.
> But the more basic argument of "will I make an assignment to my
> downstream" or "will I allow this assignment to remain in effect" has
> nothing to do with what you're talking about.
>
>
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