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RE: ratios

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dean S Moran)
Thu May 9 16:04:39 2002

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From: "Dean S Moran" <dmoran@supernetpower.com>
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Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 14:54:55 -0500
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Chris Parker wrote:

>At 01:05 PM 5/9/2002 -0400, Daniel Golding wrote:


>>You can publicly denounce them on a forum like this, which has doubtful
>>effect.
>
>It informs other networks of the actions taken by said carrier.  Od
carrier.  Other
>networks may in turn change *their* business decisions based on that
>information.

Right! With the (mostly) unregulated nature of the internet as it stands
right now, sometimes this is the only recourse we have when a provider does
something stupid.  Hopefully it'll cause said provider to wake up and smell
the roses, but with C&W I doubt it.  They're too egotistical to cave in to
public pressure.

>>Additionally, punishing folks for enforcing rational peering
>>requirements is counterproductive.

What's so rational about asking for 5000 routes?

>Rational is a pretty subjective concept.  :)  Overly restrictive
>covenants wrt housing have been struck down in the past.  One could
>make an analogy to overly restrive peering agreements if one wanted
>to go down that particular rat hole...

I actually hope it happens, real soon.

>>I guess the best thing you can do is not take peering matters personally,
>>and to remember that peering decisions are business decisions, and they by
>>personalizing them, it creates unnecessary animosity.
>

How can I not take it personally when this person's business decision
directly and immediately affected mine? Not to mention my quality of life,
which is still recovering.

Dean





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