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Re: ratios

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Stephen J. Wilcox)
Fri May 10 05:02:58 2002

Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 10:02:20 +0100 (BST)
From: "Stephen J. Wilcox" <steve@opaltelecom.co.uk>
To: Michael Painter <tvhawaii@shaka.com>
Cc: Dean S Moran <dmoran@supernetpower.com>, nanog@merit.edu
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On Thu, 9 May 2002, Michael Painter wrote:

> 
> >>All of that changed when C&W depeered from PSI.  I lost a lot of money
> due to Mr. Jansen's fascism.
> 
> Understand now?<<
> 
> 
> I apologize in advance, I'm a total newbie...so what did you have to do?

Build resilience into his single homed, single point of failure
non-redundant network.

Steve


> 
> --Michael
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dean S Moran" <dmoran@supernetpower.com>
> To: <nanog@merit.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 12:42 PM
> Subject: RE: ratios
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:
> > >Your quality of life is affected by being turned down for peering how?
> > 
> > Who said I was turned down for peering?  When I buy a pipe from an internet
> > provider, I buy it under the assumption that I'm going to be able to see
> > the entire internet from it.  I know that probably any given moment, that
> > some small part of the internet is going to be inaccesible due to outages
> > or routing loops, but I do not expect to lose a path to another provider
> > for days because my upstream decides to bully the competition.  I depended
> > on, and had customers who depended on, being able to reach AS174, and for
> > years this "just worked" so there was no need to multihome.  Short outages,
> > or even overnight outages never hurt us, so single-homing was the way to
> > go.  All of that changed when C&W depeered from PSI.  I lost a lot of money
> > due to Mr. Jansen's fascism.
> > 
> > Understand now?
> > 
> > Dean 
> > 
> > 
> > >Steve
> > >
> > >
> > 
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