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Re: Fwd: SlashDot: "Comcast Gunning for NAT Users"
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Todd Suiter)
Thu Jan 31 18:25:12 2002
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 15:21:32 -0800 (PST)
From: Todd Suiter <todd@s4r.com>
To: "M. David Leonard" <mdl@equinox.shaysnet.com>
Cc: "Eric A. Hall" <ehall@ehsco.com>, <nanog@merit.edu>
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Indeed, I DO have a a linksys for just that reason, in fact its
a 1 wan/1 lan version...'Course, its plugged into a switch, that has
an airport attached as well but...
I have been, and am constantly probed for just about everything under
the, er, sun. Considering the amount of people out there who have less
than a full allotment of clue for these types of things, the larger issue
is the OS vendors should probably make an effort to not turn on every
less-than-secure service out of the box on a default install. But thats
probably off topic...
Having some sort of firewall is a good start, though not
a complete solution. The comcasts of the world are only going to hurt
themselves more if they continue to make a huge stink out of this. (Yes,
I know a fw!=NAT, but do you think the vendor will make that distinction?)
toddler
(ps yes, at times I think using a computer on the internet should require a license)
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, M. David Leonard wrote:
>
>
> You know, if I had a cable modem I would have some sort of
> firewall router just to preserve my peace of mind. I might even run NAT
> on the LAN side. So the question is this: can a customer use a firewall
> for *one* computer? If so, how can the cableco determine whether there
> is a single computer or two computers or more behind a firewall? I
> really don't think they can except in cases of egregious abuse.
>
>
> David Leonard
> ShaysNet
>
>
> On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Eric A. Hall wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > "Eric A. Hall" wrote:
> >
> > > If you use too much bandwidth, they will [] drop your service.
> >
> > ps--the original message sounds like they have gone beyond hunting down
> > the people running warez servers and the like, and have gone into an
> > agressive mode of pursuing anybody with a NAT regardless of their
> > utilization. I have no idea if that is true. I don't think it would be a
> > smart move on their part but that probably doesn't enter the equation.
> >
> > --
> > Eric A. Hall http://www.ehsco.com/
> > Internet Core Protocols http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/coreprot/
> >
>
