[44922] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Automated DLR conflict detection
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (James)
Sun Dec 30 22:47:42 2001
From: "James" <james@james-web.net>
To: "'mike harrison'" <meuon@highertech.net>,
"'Sean Donelan'" <sean@donelan.com>
Cc: "'Jake Khuon'" <khuon@NEEBU.Net>, <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 22:40:21 -0500
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If I had to choose someone to work with, I'd take someone with tons of
experience and especially a Cisco degree over a MS-style degree (Not
just because it is Microsoft).
Most MCSE classes and material (books) teach you how to pass the MCSE,
not how to do well in the real world (Sort of like the SATs).
In my Cisco classes, I learned a lot about routers and networking as
whole, even more than I knew prior. Real world applications, like
recovering from a lost enable password (You would not believe how many
people configure a router then "forget" the enable password) are taught.
Plus, once you learn one thing, it is very easy to port skills to
something else. Like I can figure out most programs (especially GUIs),
since they are all pretty similar to each other.
- James
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From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of
mike harrison
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 10:15 PM
To: Sean Donelan
Cc: Jake Khuon; nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: Automated DLR conflict detection
Sean said:
> (can't) figure out why people want a CCIE to run their Juniper
routers.
Unlike MS-Something certification, CCIE certification is tough enough
and practical enough that the annointed ones are often proven to be
useful
in any situation. Although I am an old *nix/Linux routing nutcase, I
work
with a young sponge that just got his CCIE and I am impressed with the
foundation he has and his ability to apply it to a wide variety of
equipment and scenerios.
Should you find yourself driving around Chattanooga in a "stealth
backhoe", even at 3am... beware of the rednecks living next door
to the fiber. :)
.~. meuon@geeklabs.com
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