[44272] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: RBL turf wars (was: ABOVE.NET BLOCKING ORBZ!)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Margie Arbon)
Sat Nov 17 01:35:42 2001
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 22:36:29 -0800
From: Margie Arbon <margie@mail-abuse.org>
Reply-To: Margie Arbon <margie@mail-abuse.org>
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--On Saturday, November 17, 2001 1:15 AM -0500 Alex Pilosov
<alex@pilosoft.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Margie Arbon wrote:
>
>> Point of clarification:
>>
>> RBL is a registered service mark of MAPS, refering to the Realtime
>> Blackhole List.
>>
>> This has **nothing** to do with us. At All.
>
> Correction: Other than the these two things:
>
> a) Paul Vixie is a cofounder, chairman and CEO of MAPS LLC and at same
> time CTO of MFN (parent of above.net)
Paul has zero involvement at MAPS. He hasn't had any involvement with
MAPS for quite a while. AFAIK, he is President of PAIX, not CTO of
MFN.
> b) Dave Rand is a cofounder and executive director of MAPS LLC and at
> same time EVP of MFN.
Dave is the Executive Director of MAPS. He is no longer at MFN. Hasn't
been for a quite a while.
> Don't get me wrong, I like MAPS and I think ORBS/MAPS flamewars are
> silly. (And certainly hoping I'm not starting one now). But a little
> bit of honesty never hurt anyone, and its a bit disingenious to say
> that there's absolutely nothing in common between Above/MFN and MAPS.
I am never anything BUT painfully honest. There is nothing disingenuous
about this at all. There is *no* relationship between the management
of MAPS and that of above.net, MFN, PAIX or any other entity.
Please check your facts before you question someone's integrity.
--
We now return you to your regularly scheduled flame war.
Margie
