[44268] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: RBL turf wars (was: ABOVE.NET BLOCKING ORBZ!)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Roger Marquis)
Fri Nov 16 22:32:12 2001
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 19:30:35 -0800 (PST)
From: Roger Marquis <marquis@roble.com>
To: <nanog@trapdoor.merit.edu>
Message-ID: <20011116192437.M182-100000@roble.com>
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> >Check this out, I can't get to Orbz's website anymore (and I suspect you
> >can't either):
We can't either. Attached is a letter from a customer forwarded
to our upstream (another above.net victim/ISP). If Above.Net wants
to shed customers like a duck sheds water these filters will surely
have that effect.
--
Roger Marquis
Roble Systems Consulting
http://www.roble.com/
>I'm unable to access my primary spam filter subscription, www.orbz.org,
>thanks to some clueless filter-nazi at above.net. Can you add a route
>to orbz (205.231.149.0) through ###### (bypassing above.net)?
>
>As you know ####### provides spam filtering services to its customers
>via orbz, orbl, ordb, and other dns subscription services. Above.net's
>un-announced and un-approved IP filters are impacting our services,
>customers, and cash-flow. I hope you and above.net are aware that
>these filters are causing financial hardship to ##########.
>
>Longer-term, please let me know if you decide to open a worldcom
>co-lo. This is the second time we've been screwed by above.net (the
>first due to their blocking orbs.org) and we are preparing to move to
>sonic.net or another ISP to avoid these petty, unprofessional, and
>ongoing RBL turf battles.
>
>>traceroute to www.orbz.org (205.231.149.53), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
>> ...
>> core1-main2-oc12.sjc1.above.net (208.185.175.253) 1.548 ms !H * *
>> * * *
>> ...
