[43151] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: The Gorgon's Knot. Was: Re: Verio Peering Question
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joseph T. Klein)
Sun Sep 30 11:34:18 2001
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Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 15:33:48 +0000
To: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@gitoyen.net>
From: "Joseph T. Klein" <jtk@titania.net>
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At 13:54 +0200 30-09-2001, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
>On Friday 28 September 2001, at 20 h 6,
>"Joseph T. Klein" <jtk@titania.net> wrote:
>
>> Yeah right. I suggest you look at real world loaded 7200s. They have
>> problems with full routing tables.
>
>I don't know, I don't use Ciscos and I don't regret it.
>
>> >Any Taiwan-made PC can swallow much more. The limit is not clear but is
>> >certainly far away from us.
>>
>> I want to you to put a couple of channelized DS-3s, an ATM OC12c,
>> and a POS OC48c to your backbone plus all the BGP peers you can sign
>> up at AADS on a PC.
>
>Come on, I did not say that a PC can handle everything, just that it can
>handle easily 100k routes.
>
>I don't know the limit but neither do you (did you try the funny experiment
>you suggest or are you just guessing?) The only thing I'm sure, because I run
>it daily, is that 100k routes is not a lot for today's machines.
>
>> The black and white simplicity expressed by people on this forum is
>> unbelievable.
>
>The ability of some people to continue the discussion about the "routing table
>explosion" legend as if we were still in a world of 64 mega-bytes routers
>(with a Motorola 68020) is unbelievable.
Muck through the archives ... you will find me on the other side of the
argument.
A PC with the big interfaces is called a Juniper. ;-)
The problem is at the core, not at the edge. You can put a PC in
many places but not in a high bandwidth, peer rich location.
--
Joseph T. Klein +1 414 915 7489
Senior Network Engineer jtk@titania.net
Adelphia Business Solutions joseph.klein@adelphiacom.com
"... the true value of the Internet is its connectedness ..."
-- John W. Stewart III
