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Re: The Gorgon's Knot. Was: Re: Verio Peering Question

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Stephane Bortzmeyer)
Sun Sep 30 08:01:16 2001

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From: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@gitoyen.net>
To: "Joseph T. Klein" <jtk@titania.net>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
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     ("Joseph T. Klein" <jtk@titania.net>'s message of 
     Fri, 28 Sep 2001 20:06:36 -0000)
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On Friday 28 September 2001, at 20 h 6, 
"Joseph T. Klein" <jtk@titania.net> wrote:

> Yeah right. I suggest you look at real world loaded 7200s. They have
> problems with full routing tables.

I don't know, I don't use Ciscos and I don't regret it.

> >Any Taiwan-made PC can swallow much more. The limit is not clear but is
> >certainly far away from us.
> 
> I want to you to put a couple of channelized DS-3s, an ATM OC12c,
> and a POS OC48c to your backbone plus all the BGP peers you can sign
> up at AADS on a PC.

Come on, I did not say that a PC can handle everything, just that it can 
handle easily 100k routes.

I don't know the limit but neither do you (did you try the funny experiment 
you suggest or are you just guessing?) The only thing I'm sure, because I run 
it daily, is that 100k routes is not a lot for today's machines.

> The black and white simplicity expressed by people on this forum is
> unbelievable.

The ability of some people to continue the discussion about the "routing table 
explosion" legend as if we were still in a world of 64 mega-bytes routers 
(with a Motorola 68020) is unbelievable.



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