[42920] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Points of Failure (was Re: National infrastructure asset)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Sean Donelan)
Tue Sep 25 18:13:19 2001
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 18:25:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com>
To: Travis Pugh <tdp@discombobulated.net>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Travis Pugh wrote:
> I was able to procure extremely detailed route information from multiple
> CLECs and Verizon in the Boston area when researching both dark fiber and
> SONET purchases, up to and including street-level maps. Long-haul providers
> also are able to provide detailed route information, if you're willing to
> ask -- the key is to be an educated buyer.
Getting the maps is the "easy" part. Keeping track of where your
circuit is after six months is the hard part. I've spoken to people
who even had "dark fiber" groomed into a single path.
When even NORAD and VISA have had problems maintaining diversity, I
find it hard to believe it is a simple as saying the key is to be
an educated buyer. Heck, I know major, major carriers which have
wiped out all the circuits to their own NOC.
If it was so simple, everyone would do it.
