[42018] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Yes it's off topic but who cares right now.
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (herb@tomobiki.urusei.net)
Thu Sep 13 02:45:43 2001
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From: herb@tomobiki.urusei.net
To: arman@unitedlayer.com (Arman Khalili)
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 18:30:33 -0700 (PDT)
Cc: rmeyer@mhsc.com (Roeland Meyer),
avg@exigengroup.com ('Vadim Antonov'),
smb@research.att.com (Steven M. Bellovin), nanog@merit.edu
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Arman Khalili wrote:
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> The best way to eradicate all terrorists is simply to drain their financial
> resources. This would have a global support and and no human life would be
> sacrificed. Imagine if Osama Ben ladin would wake up and find out that he
> has $0 left. He wouldn't be able to finance any of his efforts. This would
> expose him and all of his followers where they could be captured and brought
> to justice (chaining to a building and firing a rocket comes to mind).
>
> arman
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roeland Meyer" <rmeyer@mhsc.com>
> To: "'Vadim Antonov'" <avg@exigengroup.com>; "Steven M. Bellovin"
> <smb@research.att.com>
>
> >
> > |> From: Vadim Antonov [mailto:avg@exigengroup.com]
> > |> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 2:11 PM
> > |>
> > |> The problem isn't terrorists - people with lunatic worldview
> > |> will always
> > |> exist, and there's no way to prevent that. The problem is
> > |> governments
> > |> which refuse to cooperate in eradicating them because they
> > |> futher their
> > |> goals while leaving their hands "clean". And may I to
> > |> remind the truism
> > |> that any government can govern only because it has support of a
> > |> significant part of (maybe, brainwashed) population?
> > |>
> > |> As for civil liberties - reality check time.
> >
> > |> Those are people who _believe_ that Western civilization is
> > |> evil and has
> > |> to be destroyed by any means, including suicide. Those
> > |> aren't isolated
> > |> "crazies". Their mothers and neighbours are proud of what
> > |> they did, and this is scary.
> >
> > Does anyone remember all those hijacking of the mid'70's? Does anyone
> > realize why they stopped? Terrorist groups are like weeds. They grow over
> > time. One has to regulary whack the weeds. We no longer have the weed
> > whackers.
> >
>
>
