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RE: multi-homing fixes

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Sean M. Doran)
Tue Aug 28 11:42:14 2001

To: david.conrad@nominum.com, davids@webmaster.com
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Message-Id: <20010828154140.7F027C7915@cesium.clock.org>
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 08:41:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: smd@clock.org (Sean M. Doran)
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


"David Schwartz" <davids@webmaster.com> writes:

| 	I'm not sure I believe that this tragedy of the commons exists where people
| route on allocation boundaries. If I make Sprint carry an extra route just
| for my little network, that helps all Sprint customers reach my little
| network.

Cool, so you can get them to contribute a fraction of the 50 cents you owe me?

Since I live downstream from Sprint, I tell you what: I'll give you
the first flap for free.   And that's a generous offer, given that
your little network represents approximately zero percent of my traffic,
and I doubt I'll be complaining to my other personalities that I can't
get at your fascinating content without subsidizing your network's 
globally-visible dynamicism.

	Sean. (who does, incidentally, subscribe to some pay-for-play
	       web sites, for example, which helps them pay for a part of THEIR
	       dynamicism.  i must remember to ask for a 50 cent * n discount 
	       at renewal time...)

P.S.: the point here, since it's easy to miss, is that a clearing house
      function is useful for containing complexity of negotiation, and 
      is currently being done by the RIRs on behalf of their owners

      business opportunity: a tool which reliably lets one decide if 
      prefix x is worth carrying in all its flapping glory, or whether
      it should be bitbucketed until a bill is paid

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