[41006] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: multi-homing fixed
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Hares)
Tue Aug 28 11:36:53 2001
From: "David Hares" <dhares@networktwo.net>
To: "Leo Bicknell" <bicknell@ufp.org>, <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 11:33:55 -0400
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True enough. But you don't really need multiple POPs in a city. Frame
Relay and ATM are both distance insensative, pricewise. Most, if not all,
of the serious players have discounts off list from various providers so
it's reasonable to provision one or more circuits well out of the local
area. Deals can usually be worked for dedicated facilites too.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of
> Leo Bicknell
> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 11:09 AM
> To: nanog@merit.edu
> Subject: Re: multi-homing fixed
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 10:45:59AM -0400, David Hares wrote:
> > Better to buy from someone with a clue, with a real (redundant path)
> > backbone, and provision as many lines as you want into
> disparate POPs. Even
>
> I've asked this of a number of people now, but how many providers
> have multiple POP's in a city that are _completely redundant_?
> That is, they can operate _fully_ with one POP out of service?
>
> In New York, Washington DC, Chicago, the bay area and maybe one or
> two other spots you most likely have a half dozen choices. In many
> other NFL cities, say Green Bay, Tampa, Cincinatti, Indianapolis
> and the like if you have more than one choice I'd be surprised,
> and in several if you even have one choice I'd be surprised. Even
> if they have two pops, many of those cities won't have redundant
> long haul capacity. One POP will either be behind the other, or
> they are oversubscribed on the long haul.
>
> --
> Leo Bicknell - bicknell@ufp.org
> Systems Engineer - Internetworking Engineer - CCIE 3440
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