[40808] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Measuring PoP to PoP latency--tools to use?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jake Khuon)
Wed Aug 22 20:55:03 2001
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From: "Jake Khuon" <khuon@GBLX.Net>
To: k claffy <kc@ipn.caida.org>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
In-reply-to: k claffy's message of Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:38:25 -0700.
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Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:52:23 -0700
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### On Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:38:25 -0700, k claffy <kc@ipn.caida.org> casually
### decided to expound upon nanog@nanog.org the following thoughts about
### "Re: Measuring PoP to PoP latency--tools to use?":
kc> how many ISPs use this and [how] do they
kc> find it helps them operationally?
I don't know any ISPs that us it. I imagine some enterprise networks do. I
played around with it in anticipation for using it to measure jitter but
found it of limited usefulness because if you have to deploy a box to do
localised collection of the data anyways you may as well run a better jitter
probe from that unix box.
kc> it has been around for years, during which time
kc> i have heard no actual data wrt its operational utility,
kc> reckon that cisco would be responsive
kc> to ISP suggestions for improvements to it
I thought I read somewhere that Cisco was planning on dropping RTR from the
featuresets. Then again, I may have just imagined that.
kc> (if other router vendors have similar functionality
kc> they should probably speak up;
kc> we can put such features in the caida tool taxonomy)
Seconded...
kc> maybe a nanog panel on provider experiences/caveats
kc> on any of such vendor-provided functionality
kc> is not a terrible idea.
kc> mod all the anxiety involved in sharing such experiences
I remember at one time that on-the-router measurement features were kinda
frowned upon. At least that's the general feeling I got from people. Has
this attitude reversed?
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