[39790] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: How many ISPs are out there?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Alan Clegg)
Tue Jul 24 07:02:01 2001
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 07:08:02 -0400
From: Alan Clegg <alan@clegg.com>
To: nanog@merit.edu
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In-Reply-To: <200107241026.KAA11364@vacation.karoshi.com>; from bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com on Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 10:26:27AM +0000
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Unless the network is lying to me again, bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com said:
>
> well, once upon a time.... you weren't really considered an "ISP"
> unless you were able to play the BGP game. So an ASN once was an
> hallmark of an I{A,S}P. Things change so I expect it is much harder
> to figure out, externally, what an I{A,S}P is than it used to be.
> I still use the ASN token as a discriminator. YMMV
Additionally, you need to subtract out the ones that have gone out of
business. I was looking thru the ASN list and right off the top found
about 5 that I recognized as defunct within the first 5000.
(ok, ok, 5 / 5000... maybe you don't need to subtract them out after all)
AlanC {stunned that we just got an ASN in the 2xxxxx range}