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Re: How many ISPs are out there?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com)
Tue Jul 24 06:03:57 2001

From: bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com
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To: pfs@cisco.com (Philip Smith)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 10:26:27 +0000 (UCT)
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 well, once upon a time....  you weren't really considered an "ISP"
 unless you were able to play the BGP game.  So an ASN once was an
 hallmark of an I{A,S}P.  Things change so I expect it is much harder
 to figure out, externally, what an I{A,S}P is than it used to be.
 I still use the ASN token as a discriminator. YMMV


> 
> At 09:21 24/07/2001 +0000, bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
> 
> >how many active ASN's are there?
> 
> and minus the other multihoming networks...
> 
> Hmmm, and looking at the list of ASNs it's pretty hard to work out which 
> are ISPs and which are not.
> 
> And then what about those ISPs who don't have an ASN...
> 
> p
> 
> 
> 
> > >
> > >
> > > I was actually thinking along IAP (Internet Access Provider) lines. But,
> > > most folks lump ISPs and IAPs in the same breath.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Adam Rothschild [mailto:asr@latency.net]
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 11:09 PM
> > > > To: Roeland Meyer
> > > > Cc: nanog@merit.edu
> > > > Subject: Re: How many ISPs are out there?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 10:37:01PM -0700, Roeland Meyer wrote:
> > > > > Is there a site that can give me that info?
> > > >
> > > > When in doubt, ask Jeeves:
> > > >
> > > > <http://www.ask.com/main/askjeeves.asp?ask=How+many+ISPs+are+o> > 
> > ut+there%3F>
> > > >
> > > > What exactly is an ISP anyways?
> > > >
> > > > -a
> > > >
> > >
> 


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