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Re: DDoS attacks

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dan Hollis)
Thu Jul 12 02:08:33 2001

Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 23:07:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Hollis <goemon@anime.net>
To: Hank Nussbacher <hank@att.net.il>
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	Roeland Meyer <rmeyer@mhsc.com>,
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	Ariel Biener <ariel@fireball.tau.ac.il>, <nanog@merit.edu>
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
> Convince me why a list of non-cooperative ISPs is a thing that would
> help.

behavior modification is sometimes achieved by bad PR.

They might blow off some individual isp, "eat your pingflood, we
will shut down our smurf amps when we feel like it". I would imagine
their attitude might change when reporters start calling, "when are you
planning on shutting down your 10mb/s smurf amps?"

-Dan


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