[39395] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: GRC rides again...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Benny Fischer)
Thu Jul 5 15:11:30 2001
From: "Benny Fischer" <benny@infinet-is.com>
To: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com>, <rapier@psc.edu>
Cc: <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 12:10:42 -0700
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MS reply, for all this nonsense
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/
raw_sockets.asp
Benny Fischer
Chief Technical Officer
Infinet Internet Services
benny@infinet-is.com
480-<snip>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of
> Ron Buchalski
> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 2:59 PM
> To: rapier@psc.edu
> Cc: nanog@merit.edu
> Subject: Re: GRC rides again...
>
>
>
> Chris Rapier writes:
> >From: Chris Rapier <rapier@psc.edu>
> >CC: nanog@merit.edu
> >Subject: Re: GRC rides again...
> >Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 10:45:39 -0400
> >
> >My feeling is that he's missing some clues regarding the necessary
> >realities of the situation. Its not so much a matter of laziness,
>
> <snip>
>
> >I'm also sure that XP might increase the number of spoofed packets
> >running through the network. If that spurs more ISPs to use source
> >address filtering them thats a good thing. Even if they don't it is
> >possible to track down where a spoofed IP is coming from - its more of a
> >social engineering issue than a technical one.
>
>
> The GRC page talks about his dos attack, and he also rants about the
> "dangers" of the IP stack in XP, but his dos attack didn't come
> from sources
> sending spoofed packets, so source address filtering wouldn't
> have helped in
> this case. GRC complaining about the spoofed packet problem should be a
> separate rant on his website (who knows...it probably is!).
>
> -rb
>
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