[38186] in North American Network Operators' Group

home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post

Re: More BW, Less Taxes

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Daniel Senie)
Wed May 30 00:34:32 2001

Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010530002925.00a343a0@mail.amaranth.net>
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 00:34:01 -0400
To: Joe Abley <jabley@automagic.org>
From: Daniel Senie <dts@senie.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <20010530001508.D6906@buddha.home.automagic.org>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


At 12:15 AM 5/30/01, Joe Abley wrote:

>On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 11:59:12PM -0400, Alex Rubenstein wrote:
> > Fooey!
> >
> > > If you're across an ocean from the US, you have to factor in the cost of
> > > running underwater cable.
> >
> > If that is the case, why is it almost the same cost, if not more
> > expensive, to get a LA<>NY OC3 then a NY<>LND STM1?
>
>Depends on the terrain, and the rights of way you might have to
>purchase, but it's not uncommon for under-sea cable to be cheaper
>km for km than terrestrial cable.
>
>This is especially true in sparsely-populated island countries
>where target markets are on the coast, and where you can drop
>in for regen on land to avoid having to do it under the water [1].

Couldn't prove it by me... We were quoted $30,000/month for an E1 to 
Bonaire (Netherlands Antilles). Every part of Bonaire is on the coast (max 
distance on land is about 4km). Nice hunk of fiber running over to Curacao 
(30 miles) then on to Miami. Nobody seems to know how to quote a circuit 
over that fiber, though, other than the ISP on Curacao who quoted 
$30,000/month.

-----------------------------------------------------------------
Daniel Senie                                        dts@senie.com
Amaranth Networks Inc.                    http://www.amaranth.com


home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post