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Re: Stealth Blocking

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dan Hollis)
Thu May 24 23:11:52 2001

Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 17:40:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Hollis <goemon@anime.net>
To: Mitch Halmu <mitch@netside.net>
Cc: Matt Cramer <mscramer@armstrong.com>, <nanog@merit.edu>
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On Thu, 24 May 2001, Mitch Halmu wrote:
> I will give you a solid reason why we won't try this, quoting research
> with POP-before-SMTP conducted by the founder of MAPS TSI, Chip Rosenthal
> http://users.laserlink.net/~chip/relay-pres-9910/
> You don't have to believe me that our clients will not accept that, take
> his words instead:
> "Our users hated it - particularly those using MS Outlook"
> No need to describe what happens when your clients hate your service...

Of course this page is, ah, just a little old... presumably outlook
express is a little better now.

Of course he also states laserlink *DOES* use pop-before-smtp, so...

-Dan



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