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Re: Stealth Blocking

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Scott Francis)
Thu May 24 22:55:22 2001

Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 17:15:47 -0700
From: Scott Francis <scott@virtualis.com>
To: "Eric A. Hall" <ehall@ehsco.com>
Cc: Dave Rand <dlr@bungi.com>, nanog@merit.edu
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On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 10:23:23AM -0700, Eric A. Hall exclaimed:
> The negative side effect is that it cripples people who use email as a
> file transfer protocol.

fortunately, SMTP !=3D FTP. It's a tossup whether it's more irritating to f=
ind 5
spams in my inbox or 1 5MB attachment from a salesdroid that things cc:ing a
mailing list with his latest Excel spreadsheet is a good idea. The more that
can be done to introduce people to the concept of using the right tool for =
the
job, the better. SMTP is not the right tool for the job of transferring lar=
ge
files.

</pet peeve>

> That would be nice as well and is something I've advocated. ISPs seem
> unwilling to do this, and it would seem that implementing a default
> low-bandwidth rate limit would mean less maintenance.

I can't figure why anybody would be unwilling to do this ... just make it a
part of your ToS that email takes one week to set up after the initial acco=
unt
setup. Have the account order/setup date in a database, and a cron job that
runs daily to activate accounts with setup dates > 1 week previous.

> --=20
> Eric A. Hall                                        http://www.ehsco.com/
> Internet Core Protocols          http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/coreprot/

--=20
Scott Francis                scott@ [work:] v i r t u a l i s . c o m
Systems Analyst          darkuncle@ [home:] d a r k u n c l e . n e t
West Coast Network Ops                           GPG keyid 0xCB33CCA7
               illum oportet crescere me autem minui

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