[36795] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: What does 95th %tile mean?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Arnold Nipper)
Fri Apr 20 09:12:21 2001
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:05:24 +0200
From: Arnold Nipper <arnold@nipper.de>
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On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 05:18:02PM -0700, David Schwartz wrote:
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>
> I've looked at other ways and can't find any better. Billing based upon
> NetFlow, for example, is still statistical sampling since NetFlow loses a
> percentage of flows. For example, one of my VIP2-50's says:
>
So did you calculate, how much you are losing. It's less than 1% of a 1% of
all flows. That means you catch up more than 99.99% of all flows. Not that bad.
Furthermore NetFlow gives you the ability to offer value added (billing)
services to your customers. For example ...
> 368351628 flows exported in 12278484 udp datagrams
> 33838 flows failed due to lack of export packet
> 269989 export packets were dropped enqueuing for the RP
> 108825 export packets were dropped due to IPC rate limiting
>
> Billing based upon total bytes transferred tends to create similar
> problems. Do you bill based upon bytes transferred per day? Per month? If
> so, it's still statistical sampling if you have some amount of 'paid
> bandwidth'.
>
> And you can't collect this data from interfaces because interface rates
> include local traffic, which (for example) grossly overbills customers with
> newsfeeds.
>
... you may easily deduct News traffic from being billed. BTW: tell me how
do you exclude News Traffic if you count the 95th %ile?
Billing based upon total bytes transferred is IMHO verfy fair and attractive
from the point of a customer's view and tends to be a nightmare from an ISP's
pespective especially if you don't just count bytes but are looking at the
IP-addresses involved.
Maybe a mixture of byte-counting and portspeed would give a fair billing
model. BTW that's also the model you pay power for in Germany.
> DS
Arnold
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