[35978] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: AOL holes again.
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Roeland Meyer)
Tue Mar 20 17:08:58 2001
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From: Roeland Meyer <rmeyer@mhsc.com>
To: "'M. David Leonard'" <mdl@equinox.shaysnet.com>,
Peter van Dijk <peter@dataloss.nl>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:06:16 -0800
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How many businesses use AOL?
Most AOLers are consumers and their kids. They don't have the same service
expectations.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: M. David Leonard [mailto:mdl@equinox.shaysnet.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 1:42 PM
>
> Peter-
>
> This is nothing new - AOL was silently discarding e-mail a year
> ago. What's worse, when I contacted them I was told that
> they have an
> automated system *which does NOT generate reports for the human
> postmasters* so the staff does not know what domains are
> being blackholed
> without grepping through the logs on scores of SMTP servers.
> I find it
> difficult to believe that anyone could run a business like
> that but, hey,
> they seem to have a lot of customers who either don't care if
> e-mail gets
> through or don't know how much AOL loses for them.
>
>
> David Leonard
> ShaysNet
>
>
> On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Peter van Dijk wrote:
>
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 01:36:02PM -0500, ken harris. wrote:
> > > >If the MSNBC article is anywhere near correct (yeah, a
> big assumption) then
> > > >what AOL was doing was black-holing any "high-volume"
> source. While that
> > > >is a noble goal, the fact that any mailing list would
> fall into that
> > > >category is pretty lame.
> > >
> > > http://members.aol.com/adamkb/aol/mailfaq/dropped-mail.html#lists
> >
> > This basically means AOL is violating the very spirit of SMTP - you
> > say '250 message accepted', and you deliver it to all recipients you
> > specified acceptance for, or produce bounces.
> >
> > Greetz, Peter.
> >
> >
>
