[35977] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: AOL holes again.
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (M. David Leonard)
Tue Mar 20 16:43:07 2001
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 16:42:21 -0500 (EST)
From: "M. David Leonard" <mdl@equinox.shaysnet.com>
To: Peter van Dijk <peter@dataloss.nl>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
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Peter-
This is nothing new - AOL was silently discarding e-mail a year
ago. What's worse, when I contacted them I was told that they have an
automated system *which does NOT generate reports for the human
postmasters* so the staff does not know what domains are being blackholed
without grepping through the logs on scores of SMTP servers. I find it
difficult to believe that anyone could run a business like that but, hey,
they seem to have a lot of customers who either don't care if e-mail gets
through or don't know how much AOL loses for them.
David Leonard
ShaysNet
On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Peter van Dijk wrote:
>
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 01:36:02PM -0500, ken harris. wrote:
> > >If the MSNBC article is anywhere near correct (yeah, a big assumption) then
> > >what AOL was doing was black-holing any "high-volume" source. While that
> > >is a noble goal, the fact that any mailing list would fall into that
> > >category is pretty lame.
> >
> > http://members.aol.com/adamkb/aol/mailfaq/dropped-mail.html#lists
>
> This basically means AOL is violating the very spirit of SMTP - you
> say '250 message accepted', and you deliver it to all recipients you
> specified acceptance for, or produce bounces.
>
> Greetz, Peter.
>
>
