[35876] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Statements against new.net?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jeff Workman)
Sat Mar 17 05:15:55 2001
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 05:08:07 -0500 (EST)
From: Jeff Workman <jworkman@pimpworks.org>
To: Simon Higgs <simon@higgs.com>
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Stoned koala bears drooled eucalyptus spit in awe as Simon Higgs exclaimed:
> At 12:06 PM 3/16/01 -0500, Jeff Workman wrote:
>
>
> 4. Stability of the root zone and criminal consequences
>
> It should be recognized that in the United States, altering DNS
> records to the detriment of a pre-existing organization is covered
> under federal computer fraud statute, 18 United States Code, Section
> 1030[6]. As a result, criminal convictions have resulted from the
> alteration of DNS information[7]. Most countries now have similar
> laws.
I don't recall saying squat about modifying the root zone. I was
referring to local nameservers that are under your (or my) administrative
control. Tell me how this is any different than "content filtering"
packages that are in use today (X-Stop comes to mind.) Sure, the
underlying mechanism is different, but the result is the same. User tries
to access a site that is administratively prohibited, and is redirected to
a local web page explaining to them why. Are we going to prosecute all of
these organizations now?
If it's *my* DNS server running on *my* equipment using *my* bandwidth,
then I can do whatever I want to with it, right? Just as long as I don't
try any cache poisoning foo or otherwise propagate my authoritative
'new.net' zone to other DNS servers that aren't under my administrative
control.
> So instead of wasting energy making the case against you for the
> prosecution, why don't you use that energy productively in this situation?
> New.net already know this. They don't yet know how to go about it.
Why doesn't new.net start sending me monthly paychecks? Since they're
*all* about money, then if I am going to help them get their business off
the ground, then where's mine?
Jeff
--
"...and the burnt fool's bandaged finger goes wobbling back to the
fire." -Joe Zeff in the SDM.
