[35439] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: new.net
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mathew Butler)
Thu Mar 8 20:30:21 2001
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From: Mathew Butler <mbutler@tonbu.com>
To: 'Simon Lockhart' <simonl@rd.bbc.co.uk>, richb@pioneer.ci.net
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:59:22 -0800
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You -could- always do the whois-type thing, where ALL records containing
'apple' are returned, on first access to the name?
-Mat Butler
-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Lockhart [mailto:simonl@rd.bbc.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 2:32 PM
To: richb@pioneer.ci.net
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: new.net
>Therefore any company which creates a broader hierarchy is not motivated
>by what's best for Internet users, who are best served by a simple
>hierarchy (IBM is IBM is IBM no matter what you append to it).
Okay. You picked an example which proves your point. However, there's
plenty of exceptions. Who should have "apple" in this flat namespace?
Apple Computers? Apple Records? Apple Fruitstore?
While the BBC (British Broadcasting Corporation) is a fairly well-known
name worldwide, what gives us more claim to "bbc" in the flat namespace
than "Big Blue and Cousins" or "Baptist Bible College" (bbc.org and
bbc.edu respectively)? Have we now got bbc.com because we had a greater
claim to it, or because we had the better lawyers?
Simon
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Simon Lockhart | Tel: +44 (0)1737 839676
Internet Engineering Manager | Fax: +44 (0)1737 839516
BBC Internet Services | Email: Simon.Lockhart@bbc.co.uk
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>You -could- always do the whois-type thing, where ALL =
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-Mat Butler</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Simon Lockhart [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:simonl@rd.bbc.co.uk">mailto:simonl@rd.bbc.co.uk</A>]</FON=
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 2:32 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: richb@pioneer.ci.net</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cc: nanog@merit.edu</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Re: new.net </FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>>Therefore any company which creates a broader =
hierarchy is not motivated</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>by what's best for Internet users, who are best =
served by a simple</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>hierarchy (IBM is IBM is IBM no matter what you =
append to it). </FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Okay. You picked an example which proves your point. =
However, there's </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>plenty of exceptions. Who should have =
"apple" in this flat namespace? </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Apple Computers? Apple Records? Apple =
Fruitstore?</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>While the BBC (British Broadcasting Corporation) is a =
fairly well-known </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>name worldwide, what gives us more claim to =
"bbc" in the flat namespace </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>than "Big Blue and Cousins" or =
"Baptist Bible College" (bbc.org and </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>bbc.edu respectively)? Have we now got bbc.com =
because we had a greater </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>claim to it, or because we had the better =
lawyers?</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Simon</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>-- </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Simon =
Lockhart &nbs=
p; =
| Tel: +44 (0)1737 839676 </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Internet Engineering =
Manager | =
Fax: +44 (0)1737 839516 </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>BBC Internet =
Services &nbs=
p; | Email: Simon.Lockhart@bbc.co.uk </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Kingswood Warren,Tadworth,Surrey,UK =
| URL: <A HREF=3D"http://support.bbc.co.uk/" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://support.bbc.co.uk/</A></FONT>
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