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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (CARL P HIRSCH)
Fri Feb 23 16:42:43 2001

Date: 23 Feb 2001 15:22 GMT
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From: CARL P HIRSCH <CARL.P.HIRSCH@slchicago.infonet.com>
To: nanog@merit.edu
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I'm curious - how many ISPs hold to this kind of policy of being tight-lipped
until subpoenaed? 

Personally, I'm kind of glad to see this response from @home. I know I would
want to see an ISP I used do the same thing if confronted by The Law. Maybe
that's just the Bill of Rights lover in me.

Having said that, it sucks that they're forcing you to get the lawyers and the
cops involved. I'd often prefer to see things handled on an informal basis of
professional courtesy. Especially when real damage is done such as in your case.

-carl hirsch
network analyst
sargent & lundy llc

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Subject:    Update for noc .nl problem..
Author: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
Date:       2/23/01 3:09 PM

Spoke to someone from the home.com abuse department... Basic conversation
was, We won't give you the information, Untill you subpeona us.

Well time to get the lawyers involved.

--
Scott Walker                                 scott@unspeakable.org
Cell 954.444.3408                    http://www.unspeakable.org
Network/Security Administrator

There are two ways to write error-free programs.  Only the third one works.


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