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Re: Using unallocated address space

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (michael thomas guldan)
Thu Feb 15 14:03:30 2001

Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 14:58:05 -0500
From: michael thomas guldan <michael@core.ele-mental.org>
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On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 07:31:52PM +0200, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
> 
> At 22:56 12/02/01 -0800, Sean Donelan wrote:
> 
> >On Mon, 12 February 2001, John Fraizer wrote:
> > > Any time a network is caught announcing non-allocated address space, the
> > > registry should bill them accordingly.  If they refuse to pay, the
> > > registry should yank their ASN.  That would be strong encouragement to do
> > > the right thing.
> >
> >Other than making it difficult for people to figure out WHOIS using that
> >ASN, "yanking" an ASN's registration has little practical effect.  You
> >can use an un-allocated ASN almost as easily as using an un-allocated
> >address block.
> 
> The registries, ARIN/RIPE/APNIC should announce the offending block 

could someone please explain the benefit of turning the registries into
internet police forces?  i really don't understand how this could 
*realistically* solve this problem, and i can imagine plenty of ways that 
this could become a bigger problem in itself

> themselves and shunt it to null0.  If the offender announces a /18 then 
> they should announce theirs as 2x/19s and thereby override the bogus /18.
> 

and the offending party will announce 32 /23s..  what will this solve?

regards,

michael


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