[34643] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Using unallocated address space
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Hank Nussbacher)
Thu Feb 15 12:53:56 2001
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 19:36:22 +0200
To: Philip Smith <pfs@cisco.com>, nanog@merit.edu
From: Hank Nussbacher <hank@att.net.il>
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At 21:53 15/02/01 +1000, Philip Smith wrote:
>At 22:56 12/02/2001 -0800, Sean Donelan wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 12 February 2001, John Fraizer wrote:
>> > Any time a network is caught announcing non-allocated address space, the
>> > registry should bill them accordingly. If they refuse to pay, the
>> > registry should yank their ASN. That would be strong encouragement to do
>> > the right thing.
>>
>>Other than making it difficult for people to figure out WHOIS using that
>>ASN, "yanking" an ASN's registration has little practical effect. You
>>can use an un-allocated ASN almost as easily as using an un-allocated
>>address block.
>
>And announcing both unallocated address space and unallocated AS space
>will mean an entry in my little summary which I send out every week to
>RIPE NCC, ARIN and APNIC mailing lists...
>
>I've see these:
>
>Network Origin AS Description
>39.96.40.224/30 14408 iCAIR
>50.198.0.0/16 2548 Digital Express Group, Inc.
>91.16.23.0/24 11770 Net56
>103.22.7.0/24 9768 PubNet (Korea Telecom)
>
>And the large amount of private and unallocated ASes has already been
>mentioned on the list this week...
>
>Someone is watching, it's another issue what to do about it, if anything
>can be done at all...
Has RIPE/ARIN/APNIC responded yet? I can hound RIPE as well if you want.
-Hnak
>philip
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