[33923] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: What is going on in the PAC NW (Microsoft Outage)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Adrian Chadd)
Thu Jan 25 04:19:21 2001
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 17:15:47 +0800
From: Adrian Chadd <adrian@creative.net.au>
To: nanog@merit.edu
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In-Reply-To: <20010125001047.B36202@bloomcounty.org>; from clay@bloomcounty.org on Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 12:10:47AM -0800
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On Thu, Jan 25, 2001, Clayton Fiske wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 11:46:26PM -0500, Vijay Gill wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Bill Fumerola wrote:
> >
> > > allow me to channel a few unnamed large national backbones:
> > >
> > > "Well if thats the case, then they should just turn off their DNS server,
> > > because that's obviously the cause of the attack."
> >
> > Bill, don't make me smack you.
> >
> > The DDoS problem is endemic to the current state of hardware and software
> > that comrpises the internet. There are _no_ good answers to DDoS,
> > especially if the coders get smarter and start doing things like:
>
> I think this was his point, in reference to several fairly recent
> threads about DDoS on IRC networks. The "get rid of IRC and you get
> rid of the attacks" opinion has surfaced a number of times here.
<TONGUE LOCATION="CHEEK">
.. you know guys, this might be a reason to run IRC servers.
Give the script kiddies new things to attack, and they won't get
bored and start DDoSing more e-commerce sites, "core" routers, etc.
</TONGUE>
There are good answers to DDoS even in todays internet; there is just
too much inertia to actually get people to implement it.
Adrian
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