[32854] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: NATs *ARE* evil!
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Daniel L. Golding)
Fri Dec 15 01:19:24 2000
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 01:16:58 -0500 (EST)
From: "Daniel L. Golding" <dan@netrail.net>
To: Jeff Mcadams <jeffm@iglou.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
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In ARIN's defense, I've found that a phone call to them, to discuss a
non-standard application with an IP analyst, often works wonders. Try
giving them a call and point out the disconnect. In these sorts of cases,
they almost always do the right thing.
- Dan Golding
NetRail, Inc.
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Jeff Mcadams wrote:
>
> Also sprach David R Huberman
> >> We're currently efficiently (according to ARIN's guidelines)
> >> utilizing a /20, 2 /23's and a /24. We apply to ARIN for space, and
> >> what do they say they'll give us? A /20. Period. Someone care to
> >> explain this to me?
>
> >It means you didn't explain your goals clearly enough, I guess.
>
> What is there to explain?
>
> >If you demonstrate to ARIN efficient utilization of 21 /24s (as you
> >describe above), you qualify for 32 /24s for renumbering purposes; a /19.
>
> >Go back and show them you've used 21 /24s efficiently and ask for
> >sufficient address space with which to renumber and grow your business.
> >You'll get a /19 every time.
>
> Hello...I'm using *more* than a /20 right *now*. If I had 100%
> efficient utilization of the IP addresses that we're using *today* I
> couldn't fit into just a /20. I can't come up with *any* logic that
> would make sense to renumber into a /20. This information was clearly
> spelled out on our application. If the folks at ARIN are too dense to
> add a few numbers together, you'd think they'd at least drop us an email
> or a phone call and ask a question or two! Sheesh! There is *NO*
> excuse for ARIN here, what they've done with us has *NO* rational
> explanation.
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