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Re: Alter.net and Verio peering in Sacramento?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joe Budion)
Mon Dec 11 15:49:59 2000

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From: "Joe Budion" <jjbiv@buckeye-express.com>
To: "Mathew Butler" <mbutler@tonbu.com>, <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 15:47:01 -0500
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Alter.net and Verio peering in Sacramento?Looks to be a Verio issue:

#3 sl-gw5-kc-5-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.132.45): TTL Exceeded, =
ttl=3D253, 151 ms
#4 sl-bb20-kc-3-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.2.61): TTL Exceeded, =
ttl=3D252, 30 ms
#5 sl-bb20-fw-13-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.9.254): TTL Exceeded, =
ttl=3D251, 40 ms
#6 sl-exodus-8-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.11.126): TTL Exceeded, =
ttl=3D250, 40 ms
#7 sl-verio-2-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.194.6): TTL Exceeded, =
ttl=3D248, 40 ms
#8 p4-2-0.r00.dllstx01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.3.73): TTL Exceeded, =
ttl=3D248, 40 ms
#9 p4-4-0.r05.plalca01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.2.201): TTL Exceeded, =
ttl=3D246, 70 ms
#10 p4-1-2.r00.snjsca03.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.2.74): TTL Exceeded, =
ttl=3D245, 71 ms
#11 p4-0-1-0.r00.scrmca01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.3.34): TTL Exceeded, =
ttl=3D242, 481 ms
#12 p4-1-1-0.r01.scrmca01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.3.18): TTL Exceeded, =
ttl=3D243, 471 ms
#13 p4-1-1-0.r02.ptldor01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.2.33): TTL Exceeded, =
ttl=3D244, 481 ms
#14 ge-1-0-0.r01.ptldor01.us.ra.verio.net (129.250.31.197): TTL =
Exceeded, ttl=3D244, 471 ms
#15 hs-0-1-0.a01.smrwor01.us.ra.verio.net (129.250.55.122): TTL =
Exceeded, ttl=3D244, 480 ms
#16  (199.238.235.2): Echo Reply, ttl=3D243, 490 ms

Statistics: Out 14, in 14, loss 0%, times (min/avg/max) 30/239/490 ms

joe


----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Mathew Butler=20
  To: 'nanog@merit.edu'=20
  Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 3:33 PM
  Subject: Alter.net and Verio peering in Sacramento?


  Heya, I'm getting a huge jump in ping times from alter.net to Verio in =
what appears to be Sacramento:=20

  Type escape sequence to abort.=20
  Tracing the route to 198.107.19.34=20

    1 border7.s4-2.tonbu-1.sfj.pnap.net (216.52.2.25) 0 msec 4 msec 0 =
msec=20
    2 core2.ge0-1-bbnet2.sfj.pnap.net (216.52.0.66) 0 msec 0 msec 4 msec =

    3 POS3-0.GW2.SJC2.ALTER.NET (157.130.235.65) 4 msec 4 msec 0 msec=20
    4 146.ATM2-0.XR2.SFO4.ALTER.NET (152.63.53.110) 12 msec 4 msec 4 =
msec=20
    5 190.at-2-0-0.XR2.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.50.49) 8 msec 8 msec 4 =
msec=20
    6 184.ATM6-0.BR2.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.52.85) 4 msec 4 msec 8 msec=20
    7 a3-1-0-0c1.r00.scrmca01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.9.97) 368 msec =
368 msec 380=20
   msec=20
    8 p4-1-1-0.r01.scrmca01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.3.18) 368 msec 368 =
msec 372 m=20
  sec=20
    9 p4-1-1-0.r02.ptldor01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.2.33) 368 msec 376 =
msec 372 m=20
  sec=20
   10 ge-1-0-0.r01.ptldor01.us.ra.verio.net (129.250.31.197) 360 msec =
360 msec 364=20
   msec=20
   11 hs-0-1-0.a01.smrwor01.us.ra.verio.net (129.250.55.122) 360 msec =
356 msec 344=20
   msec=20
   12 199.238.235.2 344 msec 380 msec 496 msec=20
   13 10.20.1.15 372 msec *  400 msec=20
   14 198.107.19.34 392 msec *  400 msec=20

  Any idea what's causing that?  (Or is Alter.net just not on Verio's =
list of preferred peers?)=20

  -Mat Butler=20
  Systems Engineer=20
  Tonbu, Inc=20


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Looks to be a Verio issue:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>#3 sl-gw5-kc-5-0-0.sprintlink.net =
(144.232.132.45):=20
TTL Exceeded, ttl=3D253, 151 ms<BR>#4 sl-bb20-kc-3-0.sprintlink.net=20
(144.232.2.61): TTL Exceeded, ttl=3D252, 30 ms<BR>#5=20
sl-bb20-fw-13-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.9.254): TTL Exceeded, ttl=3D251, =
40=20
ms<BR>#6 sl-exodus-8-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.11.126): TTL Exceeded, =
ttl=3D250,=20
40 ms<BR>#7 sl-verio-2-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.194.6): TTL Exceeded, =

ttl=3D248, 40 ms<BR>#8 p4-2-0.r00.dllstx01.us.bb.verio.net =
(129.250.3.73): TTL=20
Exceeded, ttl=3D248, 40 ms<BR>#9 p4-4-0.r05.plalca01.us.bb.verio.net=20
(129.250.2.201): TTL Exceeded, ttl=3D246, 70 ms<BR>#10=20
p4-1-2.r00.snjsca03.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.2.74): TTL Exceeded, =
ttl=3D245, 71=20
ms<BR>#11 p4-0-1-0.r00.scrmca01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.3.34): TTL =
Exceeded,=20
ttl=3D242, 481 ms<BR>#12 p4-1-1-0.r01.scrmca01.us.bb.verio.net =
(129.250.3.18): TTL=20
Exceeded, ttl=3D243, 471 ms<BR>#13 p4-1-1-0.r02.ptldor01.us.bb.verio.net =

(129.250.2.33): TTL Exceeded, ttl=3D244, 481 ms<BR>#14=20
ge-1-0-0.r01.ptldor01.us.ra.verio.net (129.250.31.197): TTL Exceeded, =
ttl=3D244,=20
471 ms<BR>#15 hs-0-1-0.a01.smrwor01.us.ra.verio.net (129.250.55.122): =
TTL=20
Exceeded, ttl=3D244, 480 ms<BR>#16&nbsp; (199.238.235.2): Echo Reply, =
ttl=3D243, 490=20
ms</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Statistics: Out 14, in 14, loss 0%, =
times=20
(min/avg/max) 30/239/490 ms</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>joe</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dmbutler@tonbu.com href=3D"mailto:mbutler@tonbu.com">Mathew =
Butler</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dnanog@merit.edu=20
  href=3D"mailto:'nanog@merit.edu'">'nanog@merit.edu'</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 11, 2000 =
3:33=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Alter.net and Verio =
peering in=20
  Sacramento?</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Heya, I'm getting a huge jump in ping =
times from=20
  alter.net to Verio in what appears to be Sacramento:</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Type escape sequence to abort.</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
  face=3DArial size=3D2>Tracing the route to 198.107.19.34</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp; 1 =
border7.s4-2.tonbu-1.sfj.pnap.net=20
  (216.52.2.25) 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>&nbsp; 2=20
  core2.ge0-1-bbnet2.sfj.pnap.net (216.52.0.66) 0 msec 0 msec 4 =
msec</FONT>=20
  <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp; 3 POS3-0.GW2.SJC2.ALTER.NET=20
  (157.130.235.65) 4 msec 4 msec 0 msec</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial=20
  size=3D2>&nbsp; 4 146.ATM2-0.XR2.SFO4.ALTER.NET (152.63.53.110) 12 =
msec 4 msec 4=20
  msec</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp; 5=20
  190.at-2-0-0.XR2.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.50.49) 8 msec 8 msec 4 =
msec</FONT>=20
  <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp; 6 184.ATM6-0.BR2.SAC1.ALTER.NET =

  (152.63.52.85) 4 msec 4 msec 8 msec</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>&nbsp;=20
  7 a3-1-0-0c1.r00.scrmca01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.9.97) 368 msec 368 =
msec=20
  380</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;msec</FONT> <BR><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
  size=3D2>&nbsp; 8 p4-1-1-0.r01.scrmca01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.3.18) =
368 msec=20
  368 msec 372 m</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>sec</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
  face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp; 9 p4-1-1-0.r02.ptldor01.us.bb.verio.net=20
  (129.250.2.33) 368 msec 376 msec 372 m</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial=20
  size=3D2>sec</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;10=20
  ge-1-0-0.r01.ptldor01.us.ra.verio.net (129.250.31.197) 360 msec 360 =
msec=20
  364</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;msec</FONT> <BR><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
  size=3D2>&nbsp;11 hs-0-1-0.a01.smrwor01.us.ra.verio.net =
(129.250.55.122) 360=20
  msec 356 msec 344</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>&nbsp;msec</FONT>=20
  <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;12 199.238.235.2 344 msec 380 =
msec 496=20
  msec</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;13 10.20.1.15 372 =
msec *&nbsp;=20
  400 msec</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;14 198.107.19.34 =
392 msec=20
  *&nbsp; 400 msec</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any idea what's causing that?&nbsp; (Or =
is=20
  Alter.net just not on Verio's list of preferred peers?)</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>-Mat Butler</FONT> <BR><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
  size=3D2>Systems Engineer</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Tonbu, Inc</FONT>=20
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