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RE: DNS for interfaces & PPPoE Time Burst

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Fraizer)
Thu Jul 13 14:20:03 2000

Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 14:17:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Fraizer <nanog@EnterZone.Net>
To: Bob Biver <bbiver@hotmail.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
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On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, Bob Biver wrote:

> 
> Addendum--
> To to overwhelming responce:
> I was simply trying to get a perspective on shaping PPPoE traffic. I would 
> *NEVER* misinform or otherwise attempt to defraud anyone. The account would 
> simply be cheaper than one that was advertised as full bandwidth. This 
> account would be put out there so that *everyone* would know what they were 
> buying 320K down with a 16K CIR up but burstable to 128. Sorry for the 
> confusion-
> 
> Bob-
> 
> PS Why does everyone think poeple are trying to 'rip" off customers? you 
> will not stay in business or in your job long if you do that.
> 
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Some of the oldest ISPs on the planet have been doing it for years.  It's
called oversubscribing.

288 ISDN ports at a POP being fed with 3 DS1's into the WAN.  They're
selling "business" accounts with a CIR of 128K.

We've run into it twice on WAN connections into supposed Tier-1's.  It's
sad when you have more connectivity into them than they have to the world 
(at least at your peering point)..


---
John Fraizer
EnterZone, Inc




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