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Re: DNS for interfaces & PPPoE Time Burst

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bob Biver)
Thu Jul 13 11:44:43 2000

From: "Bob Biver" <bbiver@hotmail.com>
To: dhudes@hudes.org
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 15:42:27 GMT
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I must apologize, this was never meant as a way to 'cheat' any customer out 
of anything they pay for.  I was simply  trying to figure out how to offer a 
low-end, better than dial-up, solution for around  the same price as dial 
with 320/16 burst to 128. the only way I could do this is to *pubilicly* and 
with the customers knowledge limit these accounts, so they do not eat my 
bandwidth. People whom subscribe to the 640/320 would *always* get what they 
paid for. I guess I was not clear in what I was asking for, ideas in shaping 
PPPoE traffic. I was acutalluly trying to figure out how to let this low end 
account enjoy more bandwidth for a short period of time, if available. Are 
there many Engineers that are 'ripping' their customers?

Bob-



>From: "Dana Hudes" <dhudes@hudes.org>
>To: "Bob Biver" <bbiver@hotmail.com>, <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu>
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>Subject: Re: DNS for interfaces & PPPoE Time Burst
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>I'm a residential 1.1Mb SDSL customer. I also run a web server and have 
>been known to access client corporate LANs via IPSEC tunnel and/or ssh, and 
>transfer gigabytes of files. If my provider artificially choked me down I'd 
>switch providers. Since my connection is physically Bell Atlantic, plugged 
>in to a Covad DSLAM and then sent via ATM PVC there are a couple points.
>1. I suppose Covad could do something to make their ATM cloud more 
>profitable, and change the PVC to burstable (actually I don't know they 
>haven't) i.e. VBR or even UBR instead of CBR. That would be nasty. I would 
>be able to switch to Bell Atlantic or to Northpoint only with a physical 
>change at the Central Office.
>2. My provider does some trick. In which case I make a deal with a new 
>provider who won't, and have Covad swing my PVC.
>I get to renumber and endure some pain with Network Solutions convincing 
>them to change the name server records on my domains.
>Might also sue for breach of contract. Got to be worth a couple thousand 
>bucks, hash it out in small claims -- or get a class action suit together.
>
>Unlike perhaps Cable modem, my contract does not prohibit me from any 
>legitimate activity with my bandwidth. The usual AUP -- no spam, no network 
>abuse/cracking.
>
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu>
>To: "Bob Biver" <bbiver@hotmail.com>
>Cc: <nanog@merit.edu>
>Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 10:25 AM
>Subject: Re: DNS for interfaces & PPPoE Time Burst
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