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Re: DNS for interfaces & PPPoE Time Burst

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Thu Jul 13 10:40:58 2000

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To: Bob Biver <bbiver@hotmail.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 13 Jul 2000 06:14:58 -0000."
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From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
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On Thu, 13 Jul 2000 06:14:58 -0000, Bob Biver <bbiver@hotmail.com>  said:
> variable burst over time? The goal would be to make it commercially  invalid 
> to run a 'web' or other server on the end of a 'residential' grade xDSL 
> circuit. Filtering is not an option seeing as everyone wants their personal 
> web server and dialpad to work. But if after 30 seconds of burst to 320K up 
> I shape that PPPoE circuit down to 16K, you wont want to host your Mp3 
> server. Ideas?

Umm.. you *do* have a monopoly in the area, right?

If not, the OTHER providers in the area will implement this too, right?

Are you ready for an irate customer to come in and say "I paid for a 320K
connection, and I'm only seeing 16K throughput.  Fix it or I'm changing
providers/suing/<other badness>"?

What problem are you trying to solve by shaping the traffic?  Are you
overcommitted on your uplink and need a bigger pipe out?  Are you trying
to enforce some sort of "commercial/residential" use restriction, similar
to the telco having different rates for commercial/residential POTS?
Are you just trying to get the MP3 servers off your net? ;)

Traffic shaping may be nice, but this looks like a good way to shoot
yourself in the foot.  

-- 
				Valdis Kletnieks
				Operating Systems Analyst
				Virginia Tech


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