[29030] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: DSL (was shopping for NOCs)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bora Akyol)
Mon Jun 5 14:33:41 2000
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From: "Bora Akyol" <akyol@akyol.org>
To: "John Hall" <j.hall@f5.com>, <bwalters@inet-direct.com>
Cc: <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 11:30:40 -0700
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Well
In my case, I have dialtone but no DSL. Pacbell will not return my calls or
emails. I am back to a 56K modem for doing work from home.
The funny thing is Pacbell is showing these commercials against the cable
modem company on TV. I had cable modem for 2 years before I moved to the Bay
Area and had only one outage that lasted less than a day (fiber cut, cox
cable, arizona).
I think Pacbell hasn't a clue.
Go figure.
Bora Akyol
----- Original Message -----
From: John Hall <j.hall@f5.com>
To: <bwalters@inet-direct.com>
Cc: <nanog@merit.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: DSL (was shopping for NOCs)
>
> Bradly Walters wrote:
> > 1. Other types of DSL running in your bundle
> > of copper. (Say, you have aDSL for your home
> > use, but the Telco uses PairGain's DSL to
> > distribute their T1 services.)
>
> That effects bandwidth available between the CO and house. The problems
> I'm having are all at the CO or later. Currently, the voice line is not
> connected to the DSL injector at the CO, they are moving things around
> and have cut or unplugged the wire again (at least that's been their
> excuse before). The second problem is packet loss at an aggregating
> router for the ISP (uswest.net), I can get to routers closer to me
> with no loss. They claim the router's CPU is overloaded. It seems
> a surmountable problem to me, they just don't seem to want to fix it
> very fast.
>
> > 2. A lot of the equipment is still WAY TOO
> > NEW for Telco use.
>
> Agreed, but I think the problems I'm seeing are planning and pilot errors.
>
> > I'm sure there is a murder of training
> > and traffic engineering issues that still
> > need to be worked out...
>
> Agreed.
>
> > -brad (Rural CNE)
>
> I think this is off-topic enough to be getting annoying, so I'll shut up
> unless they come back with a real explanation. I'm not holding my breath.
>
> --
> John Hall <j.hall@f5.com> F5 Networks,
Inc.
> Senior Test Engineer 206-505-0800
>
> Oh, life is a glorious cycle of song,
> A medley of extemporanea;
> And love is thing that can never go wrong;
> And I am Marie of Roumania.
> -- Dorothy Parker, "Comment"
>
