[28421] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Cutting to the chase (was RE: ABOVE.NET SECURITY TRUTHS?)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Paul Ferguson)
Fri Apr 28 23:40:23 2000
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 23:32:25 -0400
To: danny@tcb.net
From: Paul Ferguson <ferguson@cisco.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
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At 03:23 AM 04/29/2000 -0600, Danny McPherson wrote:
>I was obviously joking about the "disinformation experts" comment,
>at least to some degree.
That's semi-comforting, at least. ;-)
>However, I certainly do agree that it's a good idea to discuss
>this as you propose at the upcoming NANOG, especially in lieu
>of recent occurrences.
That is good to know _- I knew you'd agree! :-)
>I don't believe some folks realize how much people read into
>topics discussed on this list, or understand the impact that
>seemingly simple posts (accusations about Vendor A's broken
>software, Vendor B's broken hardware, ISP A's broken network,
>ISP B's poor customer service, ISP C's security practices,
>etc..) have on these businesses, and more so, the individuals
>involved, especially since those accusations are often
>[demonstrated] premature or completely unfounded.
Yes, this is entirely counter-productive.
Not that I'm a money-grubbing, stock-sucking bastard, but speaking
as a member of the "community", I'm a little spooked by how reckless
journalism, and off-hand comments on mailing lists, affect peoples
(read: companies) financial futures (this is actually just the tip
of the proverbial iceberg).
If things/people/processes/architecture/etc. is at fault, then let's
discuss it as a community that wishes to propel ourselves into the
promising future. Otherwise, let's just demonize everyone whow learns
their lesson the old fashioned way -- with failures.
I'm really pissed off over this whole issue.
- paul
