[25893] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: ARIN whois
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Roeland M.J. Meyer)
Tue Nov 23 09:16:52 1999
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From: "Roeland M.J. Meyer" <rmeyer@mhsc.com>
To: "'Bruce Campbell'" <bc@vicious.dropbear.id.au>
Cc: <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 06:15:11 -0800
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Analogies never prove anything. Let's get our hands on the real thing
instead. Show me another way to run a third-party e-mail gateway that
doesn't require a smart relay somewhere. Oh yeah, do it with sendmail.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce Campbell [mailto:bc@vicious.dropbear.id.au]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 1:18 AM
> To: Roeland M.J. Meyer
> Cc: nanog@merit.edu
> Subject: RE: ARIN whois
>
>
> On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
>
> > > What "legitimate business purposes" necessitate leaving SMTP
> > > relays open
> > > to the world?
> >
> > How about running a commercial email gateway?
>
> Lets try another analogy set, ie You run a gas station.
>
> open-relay:
> You give out free fuel to whoever turns up in a vehicle
> capable of
> accepting fuel from your bowser.
>
> pop-before-smtp authentication:
> You require a valid corporate fleet card before handing
> out fuel.
>
> full-anti-relay:
> You require payment before letting them near the bowser.
>
> trusted-hosts or IP-based access lists:
> If their numberplate is in a certain range, give them free fuel.
>
> > How about commercial anonymous re-mailers?
>
> Ah, this would be:
>
> You give out free fuel on sighting, but not verifying,
> a corporate
> fleet card, and give them a new car.
>
> --==--
> Bruce.
>
> Peregrinus expectavi pedes meos in cymbalis est.
>
