[25868] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: ARIN whois
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Derek J. Balling)
Mon Nov 22 17:13:41 1999
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 14:12:06 -0800
To: Joe Shaw <jshaw@insync.net>
From: "Derek J. Balling" <dredd@megacity.org>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
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No offense to all, but you are ALL wasting your time trying to convince
Dean through logic on this topic. We've all been round and round the same
discussions on the anti-spam mailing lists, and Dean continues to insist
that he MUST run open relays.
Dean appears to be completely impervious to logic, so don't waste your time
sending it his way. :)
D
At 04:07 PM 11/22/99 -0600, Joe Shaw wrote:
>What "legitimate business purposes" necessitate leaving SMTP relays open
>to the world? While I think spammers shouldn't be spamming, I think
>you'd find it better to do what you can to stop them from spamming via
>means you control, i.e. your servers, as opposed to going through the
>FBI.
>
>The FBI has recently stated that their computer crimes people are entirely
>overworked and way behind. So, while they will look into the matter, my
>previous experience with the FBI and computer crime shows a decided lack
>of interest in crimes that don't involve a high dollar figure for damages
>or stolen goods/services except for the purposes of profiling attacks and
>doing trend analysis. Unless you're looking at a six figure loss, you
>probably won't get far.
>
>Your best bet is to find a solution to restrict access to your relays.
>
>--
>Joseph W. Shaw - jshaw@insync.net
>Free UNIX advocate - "I hack, therefore I am."
>
>On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, Dean Anderson wrote:
>
> >
> > These are coming from Mass, Cleveland, Ohio, and Virginia.
> >
> > We use our relays for legitimate business purposes. They are not
> "accidentally left open".
> >
> > --Dean
