[22691] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: What does the NIC in InterNIC mean? "Network Incompetence
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Derek Balling)
Sat Jan 16 11:43:33 1999
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 08:13:17 -0800
To: danderson@lycos.com
From: Derek Balling <dredd@megacity.org>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <852566FB.0057FC78.00@pghmta2.mis.pgh.lycos.com>
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At 11:03 AM 1/16/99 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Now come on, give these guys a break. You have to understand that they run
>one of the largest services on the internet, and arguably the most
>important. Yes, their billing procedures have been bad, registration is
>slow, its often difficult to get someone on the phone to solve a problem,
>etc. etc..
>
>But they have to run a service that services everyone on the internet,
>quite literally. Lycos is one of the largest companies on the web right now
>and our service is extremely large. Let me tell you, its not like we don't
>have disks fill, machines blow, modules in routers die, and on and on. In
>comparison, I know what I have to go though to make Lycos work, plus the
>efforts of hundreds of other employees. Combine that and you can't even
>compare it to what InterNIC handles. Every single domain lookup goes though
>root servers that they keep master ns records for. EVERY ONE!
>
>Its easy for us to sit around and say that they suck, they stink, and they
>are incompetent. Its because they are so important that their mistakes are
>so noticeable. Think about running your service, you know that stuff
>happens regardless of how redundant you attempt to make it. As a whole, I
>think their service runs pretty damn well for the most part. Their
>accounting and billing departments I can't say the same for, but that's not
>the issue.
>
>And lets not forget that they had to pioneer the whole thing. Its not like
>they had a business model of another company to compare to when they
>started up.
>
>So have a little respect for them and don't whine about how much they suck
>in the list unless its going to be productive, please.
>
>later-
>
>Devin Anderson
>Network Engineer
>Lycos, Inc.
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>John Fraizer <John.Fraizer@EnterZone.Net> on 01/16/99 08:15:59 AM
>
>To: nanog@merit.edu
>cc: markk@NETSOL.COM, ema@merit.edu, action@ISI.EDU, report@drudge.com,
> headline.news@cnn.com, isp-colo@isp-colo.com,
> isp-consulting@isp-consulting.com, isp-linux@isp-linux.com,
> isp-tech@isp-tech.com, isp-webhosting@isp-webhosting.com,
> comments@foxnews.com, abcsuggestions-L@starwave.com,
> TechNews@MSNBC.com, World@MSNBC.com, Internight@MSNBC.com,
> Imus@MSNBC.com (bcc: Devin Anderson/Lycos)
>Subject: Re: What does the NIC in InterNIC mean? "Network Incompetence
> Consortium"
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>
>I would like to thank the anonymous party who sent the email below. It
>confirms the rumors I had heard related to the cause of the latest InterNIC
>SNAFU.
>
>>Subject: What does the NIC in InterNIC mean? "Network Incompetence
>Consortium" (fwd)
>>To: John.Fraizer@EnterZone.Net
>>
>>
>>The service from InterNIC has been really poor for the last couple of
>>weeks, and they finally admitted what the problem is, but only to their
>>Premier Partners, and only after making up lots of other stories to cover
>>it up first.
>>
>>Please keep me anonymous, don't use my name.
>>
>>InterNIC admitted that they are being massively flooded by domain
>>speculators trying to register domains that are On Hold. It's happened
>>before, but this time it's far and away worse than ever before. They said
>>they expect to have it resolved in a few days, which I believe means that
>>they're seeking legal injunctions against one or more offenders. From
>what
>>I've heard, these speculators are sending registration templates for
>>hundreds of domains every second, going far beyond their capacity.
>
>
>It seems that the Network Solutions/The InterNIC is following the lead of
>the politicians. Lie about it until you're caught and then refuse to talk
>about it.
>
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