[19908] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Is the .to (Tonga) domain completely rogue and should be removed?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven J. Sobol)
Wed Sep 30 18:54:44 1998
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 18:41:04 -0400
From: "Steven J. Sobol" <sjsobol@nacs.net>
To: Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com>
Cc: Karl Mueller <karl@best.net>, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <199809302122.AA08664@world.std.com>; from Barry Shein on Wed, Sep 30, 1998 at 05:22:57PM -0400
On Wed, Sep 30, 1998 at 05:22:57PM -0400, Barry Shein wrote:
> If .com were used, for example, only for Slobbovian Universities, were
> being managed by one to the exclusion of other uses, etc, then perhaps
> it would be a good reason to consider decommissioning .com.
>
> And if the .to domain is not in any way being used as a TLD for the
> Kingdom of Tonga, but instead is being used only as a safe harbor for
> what appear to be malicious activities, then perhaps it should be
> decommissioned.
>
> Is that simple enough?
I've already given you one example of a domain not used for porn.
Here's another one: bounce.to, another redirection service.
I'm sure I can find others.
Of course, according to you, the TLD is rogue unless there are absolutely
no bad apples.
By this logic, I can argue for UUNet to turn off their circuit to you
if I have solid proof of *ONE* of your customers spamming.
Yes, I know, your argument is that a majority of the domains are porn
domains (not that that, in itself, is hard evidence of criminal activity)
and are used to spam. Prove "a majority."
> non-governmental regulation of the internet. Yet any suggestion that
> we do this is met with these sort of sneering, uncalled for,
> tangential, childish remarks made by individuals who obviously
> shouldn't be involved in regulating anything.
You're being flamed because you said something very foolish. Deal with it.
Happens to everyone.
> I think it's beginning to become obvious, to me anyhow, that any claim
> that the internet is better regulated by those who are involved in its
> engineering is a total failure as a concept.
Yes, Barry, you're setting a bad example.
--
Anyone who spams me will be subject to torture by Jake,
my killer attack hedgehog, and/or Lizzy and Junior, my man-eating iguanas.
