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Re: replacing compromised biometric authenticators

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Andrew Kirch)
Sat Oct 14 07:08:01 2017

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From: Andrew Kirch <trelane@trelane.net>
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 17:10:36 -0400
To: Ken Chase <math@sizone.org>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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Since I'm not squeamish about such things, I do have tin snips and will
happily assist in revocation of compromised biometric authentication
factors.

Andrew

On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Ken Chase <math@sizone.org> wrote:

> (forking the thread here..)
>
> Biometrics are still the new hotness out in North America. Cologix whom I
> deal
> with in Canada has a dozen and a half odd POPs in canada/usa and I think
> has
> fingerprinting at all sites.
>
> If the current best operating practice is to avoid biometrics, why are they
> still in use out here? Has anyone gotten the message? Is anyone in North
> America
> ripping them out yet?
>
> Other factors include your country's privacy regulations for storing
> irreplaceable personal information, the burden of which might not be worth
> the security 'benefit'.
>
> /kc
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 04:46:02PM -0400, William Herrin said:
>   >On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 4:32 PM, J??rg Kost <jk@ip-clear.de> wrote:
>   >
>   >> Do you guys still at least have biometric access control devices at
> your
>   >> Level3 dc? They even removed this things at our site, because there
> is no
>   >> budget for a successor for the failing unit. And to be consistent,
> they
>   >> event want to remove all biometric access devices at least across
> Germany.
>   >>
>   >
>   >Hi  J??rg,
>   >
>   >IMO, biometric was a gimmick in the first place and a bad idea when
>   >carefully considered. All authenticators can be compromised. Hence, all
>   >authenticators must be replaceable following a compromise. If one of
> your
>   >DCs' palm vein databases is lost, what's your plan for replacing that
> hand?
>   >
>   >Regards,
>   >Bill Herrin
>   >
>   >
>   >--
>   >William Herrin ................ herrin@dirtside.com  bill@herrin.us
>   >Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/>
>
> --
> Ken Chase - math@sizone.org Guelph Canada
>

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