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Re: IPv6 migration steps for mid-scale isp

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (JORDI PALET MARTINEZ)
Mon Sep 25 05:42:47 2017

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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 11:42:37 +0200
From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es>
To: <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1709231318530.18564@uplift.swm.pp.se>
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There are several ISPs doing trials (thousands of users).

RFC6877 (464XLAT), section 4. Network Architecture, indicates clearly =E2=
=80=9CWireline Network Architecture can be used in situations where there
   are clients behind the CLAT, regardless of the type of access service
   -- for example, fiber to the home (FTTH), Data Over Cable Service
   Interface Specification (DOCSIS), or WiFi.=E2=80=9D

Vendors confirmed two weeks ago they have implementations in CEs.

RFC7084 was created before all the new transition technologies (including 4=
64XLAT and MAP, for example, or even lw4o6 that has many advantages compare=
d to DS-LITE, being the same but requiring a much simpler CGN), so that=E2=
=80=99s why I=E2=80=99m working to update it (most probably as an =E2=80=9C=
accompanying document=E2=80=9D only for the transition part:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc7084-bis
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-palet-v6ops-rfc7084-bis-transition

New versions to be publish this week hopefully =E2=80=A6

Regards,
Jordi
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-----Mensaje original-----
De: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> en nombre de Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike=
@swm.pp.se>
Organizaci=C3=B3n: People's Front Against WWW
Responder a: <swmike@swm.pp.se>
Fecha: s=C3=A1bado, 23 de septiembre de 2017, 13:22
Para: Fredrik Sallinen <fredrik.sallinen@gmail.com>
CC: <nanog@nanog.org>
Asunto: Re: IPv6 migration steps for mid-scale isp

    On Sat, 23 Sep 2017, Fredrik Sallinen wrote:
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    > Please correct me If I'm wrong, AFAIK 464XLAT works best with mobile
    > networks and its not suitable for fixed broadband. right?
   =20
    It's most widely deployed in mobile networks, yes. There is nothing tha=
t=20
    says it couldn't work anywhere else.
   =20
    However, in fixed networks with PPPoE the most commonly used model is d=
ual=20
    stack with RFC7084 style routers.
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    --=20
    Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@swm.pp.se
   =20



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