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Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mike Hammett)
Tue Jun 13 14:02:19 2017

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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 13:02:12 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
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Overreact much? 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Midwest-IX 
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----- Original Message -----

From: "Chuck Anderson" <cra@WPI.EDU> 
To: nanog@nanog.org 
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 12:47:17 PM 
Subject: Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees 

I've started keeping a list of companies who make unsolicited 
calls/emails. I tell them that I put them on my list of companies 
never to do business with. 

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 01:12:07PM -0400, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > On 
Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 03:31:46PM +0000, Mel Beckman wrote: > > 
Sometimes they're ignorant and don't realize they're spamming. > > 
That excuse stopped being viable sometime in the last century. They 
know > exactly what they're doing, they're just counting on the 
prospective > gains to outweigh the prospective losses. If they're 
right, then the > spamming will not only continue, it will increase. 
(As we've seen: > over and over and over again.) That's because they 
don't care about > being professional or responsible or ethical: they 
only care about profits. > > So the choice is clear: either make it 
plain to such "people" (if I > may dignify sociopathic filth with that 
term) that this is absolutely > unacceptable and that it will have 
serious, immediate, ongoing negative > financial consequences, or do 
nothing while the problem escalates > indefinitely. > > If you give 
people the means to hurt you, and they do it, and > you take no action 
except to continue giving them the means to > hurt you, and they take 
no action except to keep hurting you, > then one of the ways you can 
describe the situation is "it isn't > scaling well". > --- Paul 
Vixie, on NANOG > > ---rsk 


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