[194944] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mel Beckman)
Tue Jun 13 13:50:56 2017
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From: Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org>
To: Rich Kulawiec <rsk@gsp.org>
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 17:47:23 +0000
In-Reply-To: <20170613171207.GA13643@gsp.org>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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That still leaves the question: how to you invoke this financial punishment=
? Prohibit NANOG members from buying their products?
-mel via cell
> On Jun 13, 2017, at 10:12 AM, Rich Kulawiec <rsk@gsp.org> wrote:
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>> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 03:31:46PM +0000, Mel Beckman wrote:
>> Sometimes they're ignorant and don't realize they're spamming.
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> That excuse stopped being viable sometime in the last century. They know
> exactly what they're doing, they're just counting on the prospective
> gains to outweigh the prospective losses. If they're right, then the
> spamming will not only continue, it will increase. (As we've seen:
> over and over and over again.) That's because they don't care about
> being professional or responsible or ethical: they only care about profit=
s.
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> So the choice is clear: either make it plain to such "people" (if I
> may dignify sociopathic filth with that term) that this is absolutely
> unacceptable and that it will have serious, immediate, ongoing negative
> financial consequences, or do nothing while the problem escalates
> indefinitely.
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> If you give people the means to hurt you, and they do it, and
> you take no action except to continue giving them the means to
> hurt you, and they take no action except to keep hurting you,
> then one of the ways you can describe the situation is "it isn't
> scaling well".
> --- Paul Vixie, on NANOG
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> ---rsk
