[194938] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rodney Joffe)
Tue Jun 13 11:19:55 2017
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Rodney Joffe <rjoffe@centergate.com>
In-Reply-To: <EE236ACF-8117-4A90-9509-23B88BAFE24B@beckman.org>
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 08:19:46 -0700
To: Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
> On Jun 13, 2017, at 9:02 AM, Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org> wrote:
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> Rodney,
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> What do you suggest? Shoot them at Dawn? :-)=20
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> The standard warning and education has always been adequate in the past. W=
e don't have a runaway spamming problem on the list.
What standard warning and education?
We have filters to stop spam making it to the list.
But there is definitely a spamming problem of sorts amongst vendors, to subs=
criber addresses.=20
I see something every couple of months that I can track back to NANOG, or AR=
IN.
What I *know* is that if you open the door, and ignore it with vendors on NA=
NOG, the list members will end up having a problem. If you want to know why I=
consider myself an expert, feel free to ask me offline about what the attit=
ude that those of us who ran "the backbone" in 1994 had - and how that worke=
d out.
On the other hand, as a senior citizen, at the end of my tech days, with ena=
ble grudgingly given up, I guess I could turn away and say "not my problem, r=
eally".
YMMV.
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> -mel beckman
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>> On Jun 13, 2017, at 6:00 AM, Rodney Joffe <rjoffe@centergate.com> wrote:
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>> It seems that more than just a few of us were spammed by Glenn Stern (gst=
ern@calient.net), an employee of Calient following NANOG 70.
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>> The spammer had the balls to say, in his email:
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>>> We do not know each other. I'm leveraging the attendee list for NANOG to=
reach out and raise awareness of the value of OCS (Optical Circuit Switchin=
g) in the data center and in particular, the Carrier Neutral Hotel where we'=
ve been active with next generation MeetMeRoom discussions.
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>> He does not show as an attendee at NANOG, but another executive, David Al=
tstaetter, daltstaetter@calient.net did register, and may have even shown up=
. Hopefully those of you who have traditional community attitudes will show y=
our reaction via your pocketbooks.
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>> Maybe its time for the NANOG board and staff to step in, and develop some=
teeth to use in cases like these? Unless the majority of you members are co=
ol with unfettered spamming of member and attendee lists. In which case, hav=
e at it!
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>> Rodney
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