[194260] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tim Pozar)
Wed Mar 29 11:53:03 2017
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
To: Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org>, Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com>
From: Tim Pozar <pozar@lns.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 12:11:53 -0700
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Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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Alexa ran into this problem...
https://www.cnet.com/news/amazon-unit-settles-privacy-lawsuit/
Tim
On 3/28/17 11:45 AM, Mel Beckman wrote:
> No ISPs have any right to market our customers browsing history, and currently that practice is illegal unless the customer opts in. In my opinion, only a fool wants to relieve ISPs of this restriction.
>
> The claim oft presented by people favoring this customer abuse is that the sold data is anonymous. But it's been well-established that very simple data aggregation techniques can develop signatures that reveal the identity of people in anonymized data.
>
> -mel beckman
>
>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 10:40 AM, Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> wrote:
>>
>> Last time I checked most European countries have stronger privacy protections than the US. Are they also idiots? Mr. Glass, would you care to respond?
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> Roderick.
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Brett Glass <nanog@brettglass.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 1:13 AM
>> To: nanog@nanog.org
>> Subject: Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal
>>
>> All:
>>
>> It's worth noting that most of EFF's list consists of individuals
>> and/or politically connected organizations, not actual ISPs. This
>> is for good reason. EFF was founded with the intention of creating
>> a civil rights organization but has morphed into a captive
>> corporate lobbying shop for Google, to which several of its board
>> members have close financial ties. EFF opposes the interests of
>> hard working ISPs and routinely denigrates them and attempts to
>> foster promotes hatred of them. It also promotes and lobbies for
>> regulations which advantage Google and disadvantage ISPs --
>> including the so-called "broadband privacy" regulations, which
>> heavily burden ISPs while exempting Google from all oversight.
>>
>> No knowledgeable network professional or ISP would support the
>> current FCC rules. Both they AND the FCC's illegal Title II
>> classification of ISPs must be rolled back, restoring the FTC's
>> ability to apply uniform and apolitical privacy standards to all of
>> the players in the Internet ecosystem. The first step is to support
>> S.J. Res 34/H.J. Res 86, the Congressional resolution which would
>> revoke the current FCC regulations that were written and paid for
>> by Google and its lobbyists. So, DO contact your legislators...
>> but do so in support of the resolutions that will repeal the
>> regulations. It is vital to the future of the Internet.
>>
>> --Brett Glass, Owner and Founder, LARIAT.NET
>>
>> At 05:05 PM 3/26/2017, Peter Eckersley wrote:
>>
>>> Dear network operators,
>>>
>>> I'm sure this is a controversial topic in the NANOG community, but EFF and a
>>> number of ISPs and networking companies are writing to Congress opposing the
>>> repeal of the FCC's broadband privacy rules, which require explicit opt-in
>>> consent before ISPs use or sell sensitive, non-anonymized data (including
>>> non-anonymized locations and browsing histories).
>>>
>>> If you or your employer would like to sign on to such a letter, please reply
>>> off-list by midday Monday with your name, and a one-sentence description of
>>> your affiliation and/or major career accomplishments.
>>
