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Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tim Raphael)
Tue Dec 20 21:18:23 2016
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Tim Raphael <raphael.timothy@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <4FBAFC2ECF5D6244BA4A26C1C94A1E270D5DBC986F@exchange>
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 10:16:38 +0800
To: Emille Blanc <emille@abccommunications.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
Exactly,
Also they=E2=80=99re across Android and iOS and getting parity of =
operations across those two OSs isn=E2=80=99t easy.=20
Better to just embed what they need inside the app if it is specialised =
enough.
- Tim
> On 21 Dec. 2016, at 10:13 am, Emille Blanc =
<emille@abccommunications.com> wrote:
>=20
> Perhaps the host OS' to which snapchat caters, don't all have a devent =
ntp subststem available?
> I have vague recollections of some other software (I'm sure we all =
know which) implemented it's own malloc layer for every system it ran =
on, for less trivial reasons. ;)
>=20
> ________________________________________
> From: NANOG [nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Tim Raphael =
[raphael.timothy@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 5:34 PM
> To: Gary E. Miller
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase
>=20
> This was my thought actually, Apple does offer some time services as =
part of the OS but it=E2=80=99s becoming common with larger / more =
popular apps to provide some of these services internally.
> Look at the FB app for example, there are a lot of =E2=80=9Csystem=E2=80=
=9D things they do themselves due to the ability to control specifics. =
Users don=E2=80=99t want to have to install a second =E2=80=9Cspecialised =
app=E2=80=9D for this either.
>=20
> With regard to an ephemeral chat app requiring time sync, I can think =
of quite a few use cases and mechanisms in the app that might require =
time services.
>=20
> - Tim
>=20
>=20
>> On 21 Dec. 2016, at 9:26 am, Gary E. Miller <gem@rellim.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> Yo Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu!
>>=20
>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 20:20:48 -0500
>> Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
>>=20
>>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 18:11:11 -0500, Peter Beckman said:
>>>> Mostly out of curiosity, what was the reason for the change in the
>>>> Snapchat code, and what plans does Snap have for whatever reason
>>>> the NTP change was put in place?
>>>=20
>>> =46rom other comments in the thread, it sounds like the app was =
simply
>>> linked against a broken version of a library....
>>=20
>> But why is a chat app doing NTP at all? it should rely on the OS, or
>> a specialized app, to keep local time accurate.
>>=20
>> RGDS
>> GARY
>> =
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