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RE: Recent NTP pool traffic increase

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Emille Blanc)
Tue Dec 20 21:15:26 2016

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From: Emille Blanc <emille@abccommunications.com>
To: Tim Raphael <raphael.timothy@gmail.com>, "Gary E. Miller" <gem@rellim.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 18:13:24 -0800
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Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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Perhaps the host OS' to which snapchat caters, don't all have a devent ntp =
subststem available?
I have vague recollections of some other software (I'm sure we all know whi=
ch) implemented it's own malloc layer for every system it ran on, for less =
trivial reasons. ;)

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From: NANOG [nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Tim Raphael [raphael.tim=
othy@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 5:34 PM
To: Gary E. Miller
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase

This was my thought actually, Apple does offer some time services as part o=
f the OS but it=92s becoming common with larger / more popular apps to prov=
ide some of these services internally.
Look at the FB app for example, there are a lot of =93system=94 things they=
 do themselves due to the ability to control specifics. Users don=92t want =
to have to install a second =93specialised app=94 for this either.

With regard to an ephemeral chat app requiring time sync, I can think of qu=
ite a few use cases and mechanisms in the app that might require time servi=
ces.

- Tim


> On 21 Dec. 2016, at 9:26 am, Gary E. Miller <gem@rellim.com> wrote:
>
> Yo Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu!
>
> On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 20:20:48 -0500
> Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 18:11:11 -0500, Peter Beckman said:
>>> Mostly out of curiosity, what was the reason for the change in the
>>> Snapchat code, and what plans does Snap have for whatever reason
>>> the NTP change was put in place?
>>
>> From other comments in the thread, it sounds like the app was simply
>> linked against a broken version of a library....
>
> But why is a chat app doing NTP at all?  it should rely on the OS, or
> a specialized app, to keep local time accurate.
>
> RGDS
> GARY
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