[191455] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Any ISPs using AS852 for IP Transit?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Baschak)
Thu Sep 15 16:09:21 2016
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Theodore Baschak <theodore@ciscodude.net>
In-Reply-To: <93F8A4A5-B3A3-47C0-A4AC-C630F1D52278@lixfeld.ca>
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 15:09:03 -0500
To: Jason Lixfeld <jason+nanog@lixfeld.ca>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
I don't think this is standard across the board with Telus.
I've also heard (rumours?) of a similar $250 prefix change free =
associated with Shaw/AS6327 changes before, and also a much larger $750 =
change prefix change fee with BELL-GT/AS6539, but the customers I know =
who use them definitely don't get charged these types of fees.
Theodore Baschak - AS395089 - Hextet Systems
https://ciscodude.net/ - https://hextet.systems/
http://mbix.ca/
> On Sep 15, 2016, at 2:21 PM, Jason Lixfeld <jason+nanog@lixfeld.ca> =
wrote:
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> Sure. My question was whether every TELUS BGP customer was being =
charged for these too, or if I=E2=80=99m the only one. If I=E2=80=99m =
the only one, then I=E2=80=99m obviously caught in some administrative =
black hole there that I would like to get myself out of. This is =
something that has only started happening in the last 6 months or so. =
Prior to that, we were never charged by them for these requests. =
Unfortunately, my sales rep has been less than helpful in trying to =
understand what changed to make us susceptible to these new charges.
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>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 3:15 PM, Hugo Slabbert <hugo@slabnet.com> wrote:
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>> So, to be blunt, I would cast this as their charging you NRC for =
manual work because of their failure to automate this.
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>> Hugo Slabbert | email, xmpp/jabber: hugo@slabnet.com
>> pgp key: B178313E | also on Signal
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>> On Thu 2016-Sep-15 15:09:33 -0400, Jason Lixfeld =
<jason+nanog@lixfeld.ca> wrote:
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>>> Last time I asked, that wasn=E2=80=99t something that they had =
implemented, and had no definite plans to do so within any timeframe =
that was on their radar.
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>>>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 2:50 PM, Steven Schecter <schecter@gmail.com> =
wrote:
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>>>> I question their motivation here and would follow up by asking if =
they support filtering by IRRdb and are merely trying to encourage the =
practice?
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>>>> /Steve
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>>>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Jason Lixfeld =
<jason+nanog@lixfeld.ca> wrote:
>>>> If there are any ISPs who use TELUS/AS852 for IP Transit over BGP, =
I=E2=80=99d be interested in hearing from you.
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>>>> I=E2=80=99d like to compare notes to see if you are also paying =
$250 for each BGP prefix filter updated request, or if we=E2=80=99re the =
only ones=E2=80=A6
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>>>> Thanks in advance!
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>>>> --
>>>> Steven J. Schecter
>>>> (m) 917.676.1646
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